Steven P. Barrett"IN THE NAME OF GOD, GO!" -- ROWAN WILLIAMS' LACK OF BACKBONE EXPOSES HIM (LINK) (LINK)
July 8th 2008 22:44
Steven Barrett
IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT OF THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND WORTH SAVING?
EVEN THE VATICAN, WHICH HAS BEEN AS PATIENT AS IT COULD'VE BEEN FOR ALL THE YEARS IT'S WORKED HARD TO FIND WAYS TO RECONCILE THE BREAKAWAY ENGLISH CHURCH, MUST BE WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYTHING LEFT WORTH SAVING, MUCH LESS WORTH HOLDING TALKS WITH SUCH AN UNSECURE DENOMINATION.
ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY ROWAN WILLIAMS, THE TITULAR HEAD OF THE WORLD WIDE ANGLICAN COMMUNION MUST BE FEELING LIKE NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN LATELY. HE SHOULD. HIS PORTRAIT BELONGS ALONGSIDE THAT OF CHAMBERLAIN, AND CHAMBERLAIN'S PREDECESSOR, STANLEY BALDWIN, WHO, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WAS A BIGGER APPEASER THAN CHAMBERLAIN AND LAID THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE DISASTERS THAT WERE TO BEFALL THE BRITISH EMPIRE AND ALMOST COMPLETELY BROUGHT HER DOWN DURING THE FIRST HALF OF 1940.
WINSTON CHURCHILL OFTEN WARNED THE GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE PERILS AND PRICE OF APPEASEMENT, REMINDING THEM IT WAS AKIN TO A MISSIONARY GIVING IN TO A CANNIBAL EVERY LAST THING HE HAD (SAVE FOR PRINCIPLE, GUTS AND BACKBONE) UNTIL THE CANNIBAL SIMPLY DECIDED HE WAS GOING TO EAT THE MISSIONARY -- AND DID BECAUSE THE MISSIONARY KEPT GIVING IN.
I CHRONICLED THE PATHETIC DECLINE IN MORAL AND SCRIPTURAL STANDARDS IN A PREVIOUS POST SO THERE'S NO POINT IN REHASHING THAT. BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THESE REMARKS GIVEN BY A MORE DEFIANT WILLIAMS -- BUT FOR ALL THE WRONG REASONS AT THE WORST TIME POSSIBLE.
IN A REPORT FILED FOR THE GUARDIAN, RIAZAT BUTT, THE PAPER'S RELIGIOUS AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT WROTE:
I'LL BET THOSE WEREN'T THE ONLY ONES REDUCED TO SHEDDING TEARS AFTER LISTENING TO SUCH SENTIMENTALISTIC SLOP AND DRIVEL.
A CHURCH THAT'S THROWN IN THE TOWEL TO SIN, DEBAUCHERY AND APPEASEMENT OF THOSE WHO'D TURN GOD'S HOUSE UPSIDE DOWN TO ACHIEVE NOTHING LESS THAN A POWER PLAY OF THEIR OWN -- IS NOT A CHURCH WORTH FIGHTING FOR.
ITS NOT A CHURCH: IT'S A SAD AND PATHETIC PARODY OF WHAT USED TO BE A CHURCH.
WHEN I THINK OF THE UGANDAN BISHOPS AND PRIESTS WHO BRAVED IDI AMIN, AND THINK OF THE LIKES OF THIS SAD, OLD AND INTELLECTUALLY TIRED SHELL OF A CLERIC LEADING THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND INTO AN ABYSS, IT STUPEFIES MY IMAGINATION TO EVEN THINK THAT THIS "ARCHBISHOP" WOULD HAVE THE NERVE TO USE THE WORD "FIGHTING."
NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN'S FATE WAS SEALED DURING A DEBATE ABOUT THE THOROUGHLY BOTCHED BRITISH/NORWEGIAN CAMPAIGN WHEN CONSERVATIVE LEO AMERY, QUOTING OLIVER CROMWELL'S CALL FOR THE END OF THE LONG PARLIAMENT, SAID --
IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT OF THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND WORTH SAVING?
EVEN THE VATICAN, WHICH HAS BEEN AS PATIENT AS IT COULD'VE BEEN FOR ALL THE YEARS IT'S WORKED HARD TO FIND WAYS TO RECONCILE THE BREAKAWAY ENGLISH CHURCH, MUST BE WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYTHING LEFT WORTH SAVING, MUCH LESS WORTH HOLDING TALKS WITH SUCH AN UNSECURE DENOMINATION.
Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams
ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY ROWAN WILLIAMS, THE TITULAR HEAD OF THE WORLD WIDE ANGLICAN COMMUNION MUST BE FEELING LIKE NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN LATELY. HE SHOULD. HIS PORTRAIT BELONGS ALONGSIDE THAT OF CHAMBERLAIN, AND CHAMBERLAIN'S PREDECESSOR, STANLEY BALDWIN, WHO, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WAS A BIGGER APPEASER THAN CHAMBERLAIN AND LAID THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE DISASTERS THAT WERE TO BEFALL THE BRITISH EMPIRE AND ALMOST COMPLETELY BROUGHT HER DOWN DURING THE FIRST HALF OF 1940.
WINSTON CHURCHILL OFTEN WARNED THE GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE PERILS AND PRICE OF APPEASEMENT, REMINDING THEM IT WAS AKIN TO A MISSIONARY GIVING IN TO A CANNIBAL EVERY LAST THING HE HAD (SAVE FOR PRINCIPLE, GUTS AND BACKBONE) UNTIL THE CANNIBAL SIMPLY DECIDED HE WAS GOING TO EAT THE MISSIONARY -- AND DID BECAUSE THE MISSIONARY KEPT GIVING IN.
I CHRONICLED THE PATHETIC DECLINE IN MORAL AND SCRIPTURAL STANDARDS IN A PREVIOUS POST SO THERE'S NO POINT IN REHASHING THAT. BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THESE REMARKS GIVEN BY A MORE DEFIANT WILLIAMS -- BUT FOR ALL THE WRONG REASONS AT THE WORST TIME POSSIBLE.
IN A REPORT FILED FOR THE GUARDIAN, RIAZAT BUTT, THE PAPER'S RELIGIOUS AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT WROTE:
Aware of the turmoil engulfing the church, Williams yesterday addressed some of the concerns in his Sunday sermon at a packed York Minster.
He spoke of the "agonies and complexities" facing the church as it struggled with controversial issues, and expressed his belief that Jesus would be with all those affected. He told the congregation: "In the middle of all our discussion at synod, where would Jesus be? With those traditionalists, feeling the church is falling away from them, the landmarks have shifted. He will be with those in a very different part of the landscape - who feel things are closing in, that their position is under threat, that their liberties are being taken away by those anxious and eager to enforce their ideologies in the name of Christ.
"He will be with the gay clergy who wonder what their future is in a church so anxious and threatened about this issue." Some members of the congregation said they were moved to tears by his words and welcomed his generosity and compassion.
Williams later told the Guardian: "This is a church worth fighting for. Nobody wants to leave it, and nobody wants to lose it."
He spoke of the "agonies and complexities" facing the church as it struggled with controversial issues, and expressed his belief that Jesus would be with all those affected. He told the congregation: "In the middle of all our discussion at synod, where would Jesus be? With those traditionalists, feeling the church is falling away from them, the landmarks have shifted. He will be with those in a very different part of the landscape - who feel things are closing in, that their position is under threat, that their liberties are being taken away by those anxious and eager to enforce their ideologies in the name of Christ.
"He will be with the gay clergy who wonder what their future is in a church so anxious and threatened about this issue." Some members of the congregation said they were moved to tears by his words and welcomed his generosity and compassion.
Williams later told the Guardian: "This is a church worth fighting for. Nobody wants to leave it, and nobody wants to lose it."
I'LL BET THOSE WEREN'T THE ONLY ONES REDUCED TO SHEDDING TEARS AFTER LISTENING TO SUCH SENTIMENTALISTIC SLOP AND DRIVEL.
A CHURCH THAT'S THROWN IN THE TOWEL TO SIN, DEBAUCHERY AND APPEASEMENT OF THOSE WHO'D TURN GOD'S HOUSE UPSIDE DOWN TO ACHIEVE NOTHING LESS THAN A POWER PLAY OF THEIR OWN -- IS NOT A CHURCH WORTH FIGHTING FOR.
ITS NOT A CHURCH: IT'S A SAD AND PATHETIC PARODY OF WHAT USED TO BE A CHURCH.
WHEN I THINK OF THE UGANDAN BISHOPS AND PRIESTS WHO BRAVED IDI AMIN, AND THINK OF THE LIKES OF THIS SAD, OLD AND INTELLECTUALLY TIRED SHELL OF A CLERIC LEADING THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND INTO AN ABYSS, IT STUPEFIES MY IMAGINATION TO EVEN THINK THAT THIS "ARCHBISHOP" WOULD HAVE THE NERVE TO USE THE WORD "FIGHTING."
NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN'S FATE WAS SEALED DURING A DEBATE ABOUT THE THOROUGHLY BOTCHED BRITISH/NORWEGIAN CAMPAIGN WHEN CONSERVATIVE LEO AMERY, QUOTING OLIVER CROMWELL'S CALL FOR THE END OF THE LONG PARLIAMENT, SAID --
You have sat here for too long for any
good you are doing. Depart, I say, and
let us have done with you. In the name
of God, go!
good you are doing. Depart, I say, and
let us have done with you. In the name
of God, go!
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Comment by S.L.
The Political Brief
Abandoning principles and traditions for expediency never works and it has been proven time and again throughout history. The Archbishop either needs a lesson on Chamberlain or a one way ticket to retirement. Any idea who might take his place?
Comment by Anonymous
I have no idea. Usually the Abp. of York gets the nod, though that wasn't the case for Williams. This guy Setamu is right in the radical camp as well. How else could he have succeeded?
There's only two hopes for that "communion" save for a return to Rome which will only happen in piecemeal fashion, but surely in pieces big enough to render it completely irrelevant since Catholicism is the fastest rising Christian faith in the UK.
Those two hopes are Abp. Peter Akinola of Nigeria and Luke Henry Orimbi of Uganda.
WHen I hear the women and homosexuals over there and here complain about oppression, martyrdom, and persecution, it just makes me howl out loud. It's so laughable on its face. Compared to the Anglican (and Catholic) clerics in both Nigeria and Uganda -- who've had to face awful conflicts and persecution from Muslims in Nigeria and Idi Amin in Uganda, respectively, these pink-faced, blue-bloods in the "more anglo" parts of the old British Empire, including the US, look all the more pathetically absurd. And it's not just the Anglicans and Catholics in Africa who've suffered more, but the Chinese Christians of all faiths; albeit perhaps moreso the evangelicals. (Because they are by nature more individualistically and autonomously structured, evangelical Chinese Christians automatically fall under quick suspicion in a nation that does not look too kindly on too much individualism -- unless they're fast-rising businessmen and women connected to the old boyos sitting on the Politburo. (Tony Soprano eat your heart out.)
Yes -- one last hope from the lay head of the church. Why the hell doesn't the Queen be a Queen? Surely there must be some hidden law allowing her to put the hammer down. Has to be. If not, then everything's been a bad joke for at least 30 years.
I just can't wait to see what Doug Pollard over in Austrailia's going to say when he sees this. I've seen his space and we're diametrical opposites. They're having a "field day" beating up on the CC and the World Youth Day to be held in Sydney. The funny thing about it all is that it's really not a lib vs. con thing at all; just right vs. wrong and clear as our days are different from our nights.